"You can observe a lot by seeing."
Who is Your Physician?
I am thinking that this title might just be sufficient by itself to invoke a response - however - I will give my own answer to the question and a few scriptures as added fuel.
My Physician is Jesus. What does this mean? It means that in matters of physical health I go to Him. In matters of mental, emotional health I go to Him. My parents both led lives that leaned heavily on the Staff of the Great Physician. They would often quote the words of David: let me not fall into the hands of man. Neither my mother nor my father ever took any medication. they have had medical care for broken bones and bruises and, at the end of his life my father was administered morphine as he was in excruciating pain. for myself I have not been tested very much in this regard. I have suffered with sinusitus for over twenty years - like having a streaming cold first thing in the morning and off and on all day - either blocked or running! One day I had had enough and went to see the doctor; he gave me a drug, I took one dose and then put it in the bin! It worked like a dream but I knew that whatever the cause of the tribulation it was not for me to seek a way out of it.
The Lord has confirmed through this affliction that it is His will for me to preach/teach because whenever I preach all my stuffy nasal cavities become clear and I sound perfect with no sniff at all!
So, that's my story what do you say?
Oh Scriptures: 2 Chronicles 16 12:
12And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.
13And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.
Then we have what Jesus taught about lilies of the field that toil not neither do they spin .....
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Permalink Reply by Caroline Phillips on
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I don't know about you Barry but for me the clogging of the nasal passages speaks to me about my inability to speak clearly and boldly when I should. When I can speak without fear of man ( his opinion of me - how pathetic is that!) then I believe the Lord will heal me completely. For some reason when I am speaking as a preacher then I have holy boldness but- not always in day to day living. I fall short.
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Amen Barry! EVERYTHING is for His glory. Knowing this is when we start to walk in victory.
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Permalink Reply by Debbie_LIBAW on -
Thank you, Caroline! This is exactly what God has been teaching me.
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Yup. In this Western world where "we have all the answers" taking matters into our own hands and out of the doctors is deemed unlawful. In the poorer third world countries so many are free to experience the full touch of the Lord. Blessed are the poor.... Our Western self sufficiency masquerades as a blessing while in truth it is a curse - shielding our eyes from the truth of our mortality and corrupt flesh. The flesh has been cursed, that is why there is an ever increasing variety of disease. We may find cures and seemingly irradicate some illness but, in the end we still must face up to the truth of the sickness that sin has brought to us all.
It is far harder for us to take the Lord in all His fulness when He tells us: "I am the Lord that healeth thee." We have been programmed for the quick and easy answer. Why wait? Why suffer?
Why? Because the Lord in His wisdom requires it. Job saw the full glory.
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In the end we can only speak of what we know to be true - through experience. We can quote God's Word 'cos we know its true but it is only when we have stood on that Word and experienced its truth that we can speak with conviction.
I cannot speak against doctors, there are many Christian doctors who are used by God and are powerful in their witness; but medicine is, (I believe), a major part of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. When we chose this tree over the Tree of Life, we chose to be self sufficient. God gave us the knowledge to understand how to use His created plants for medicine but we have done so - for the most part - without giving Him any recognition or glory for His provision.
I guess - and this is something I have been meditating on for a while, - when we truly believe that to die and be with Christ is far better, then any sickness that will end in our "premature" death is ultimately something to accept, not fight. We know we are going to die (unless the Lord returns in our lifetime) but we don't really believe it so we fight to stay. What for? Do we really believe that God needs us to stay? If He does require us to stay then He will surely intervene. Who is to say that He does not require us to witness to Him in our joyful acceptance of an early exit to heaven?
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Ok. I didn't want to create a riot. If I was in a desert dying for a drink of water and someone offered me a glass would I say no? Of course not.. However my argument is that illness of the body is the result of our fallen nature. The fact that we are now born again new creatures does not appear to relieve us of this curse. what I do believe is that we should be freed from fear of death and be able to rejoice in tribulation and even recognise in suffering the work of God.
I don't know whether God is totally approving or disapproving of the modern miracle of Western medicine - I know it saves lives - but we are not supposed to be concerrned with saving of flesh but of the saving of the soul.
I refuse to fall out with you Carol Ann. I am genuinely upset that you have and do suffer so badly in the body but I also rejoice with you - that God is working His purpose out in you and perfecting all that concerns you.
I LOVE YOU. Don't be angry with me.
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My personal testimony and what I understand from my reading of God's Word is all I have to stand on. My parents never innoculated me from any disease. My father's first wife died in childbirth. When he remarried - to my mother - he continued as he always had to believe in God being in full control. My mother was 47 when she had me - they told noone about my impending birth and my father delivered me - and there was no problem. They did this - not out of foolishness - but to testify in their belief of the saving power of God. Also to show that my father was not offended in God in the loss of his first wife.
My mother through the years has suffered from lumbago and neuralgia, headaches etc but has never taken so much as an aspirin.
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Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort, who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
This is our Father - He knoweth our frame and remembers that we are dust.
As a mother comforteth so He comforts us.
We cast all our care upon Him - because we know He cares for us.
Finally .. God shall wipe away all tears from our eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
( 2 Cor 1 3,4 Psa 103, 13 14. Isa 66 13. 1 Pe 3, 7. Psa 86,1. Rev 21, 4)
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This has proved to be a hot potato - but I am still being prodded to continue.
Supposing we were in a situation where someone was gravely ill -perhaps having a fit and there was nothing we could do. No medical care anywhere to hand. No medicine; a desperate situation. What would we do? Even ringing for help is unavailable as there is no phone and there is noone else to help with advice or anything
What do we do?
I'm guessing and I hope I am right in surmising that you would all get down on your knees and cry out to God for help - for a miracle.
When we are in the situation where we have the usual helps that modern society has provided we may also choose to pray - I am sure most of us do. When the person is made well - who do we think gets the glory?
God says in His word that we cannot serve Him and mammon. There is a lot of money involved in the drugs that have proved to be the "answer" to societies ills. Also I would draw your attention to the fact that none of these drugs would exist without the horrific suffering of animals. Is it the will of God that His creatures should suffer in order that we extend our lives on this earth? -
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Permalink Reply by Jason Claus on -
God's plan requires suffering with pain and desesiese(misspelled) some times...I'm glad the Lord healed u
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Permalink Reply by Colby Chase on
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Do you remember when the Pharisees attacked Jesus for ministering to and dining with tax collectors and sinners? Jesus confronted the Pharisees by saying, “Those who are well have no need of a physician, but those who are sick. Go and learn what this means, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have come to call not the righteous, but sinners."
All of us need healing of some sort, body, mind, spirit, all the time. Healing comes only in the presence of the God in whom we believe, in whom we live and have our being. The God who creates, sustains and redeems, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist.
So a question for us as believers and followers of Jesus Christ might be: What are things for which need healing? What needs to come alive, to exist in you at this time? Is it love for a difficult person, for yourself, or the courage to speak up or keep quiet?Our list can go on and on. Whether you are as old as Abraham, as barren as Sarah, as arrogant as the Pharisees, as lost as the house of Israel, examine yourself. Don’t diagnose others. Confess your sins to God and seek his forgiveness, mercy and healing. Recognize your need for healing, and in your process of being healed offer it to others.
God bless you!
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