Is God in Control of what Happens in the World or is someone else Responsible???

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Permalink Reply by Charles David Ziegler on March 4, 2010 at 4:56pm

Yes HE IS IN CONTROL, but administrates through His managers in the earth, the church. When we come to the revelation that we are the Righteousness of God in Christ, not trying to get there and start to (as a whole) walk with the manifested presence of God Rolling out before us with signs and wonders following, then things will change somewhat. Satan is still called the Prince of the air and still has many agents in the earth so there is always tribulation, Jesus warned us that there would be but keep your joy about you "I have overcome the world" Bottom line God allows (generally speaking) what his managers do not oppose.

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Permalink Reply by brian scott hickey on March 4, 2010 at 6:32pm

hi the choices we make in life good or bad trust me i have made so many bad and reaped the fruit of it.its not good to suffer in our eyes i don't like it.but i brought the trouble in a state of not knowing the truth being sick in my mind is it right to suffer in that situation well i have talked a lot to god about it. i cant change his mind. hes no respect of persons .i think life is a hard thing its all a test.with me im hoping to get right with him.and not faint and get to a point were the fruit is good in my life lord will.b blessed brian

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Permalink Reply by TO THINE OWNSELF BE TRUE on March 4, 2010 at 6:37pm

PASTOR RON
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR BUT I WILL GIVE IT A TRY...MANY TIMES IN JESUS MINISTRY IT WAS SAID UNTO HIM IF THOU BE THE SON OF GOD DO THIS AND DO THAT STARTING WITH THE DEVIL AFTER HE HAD FASTED....WHY WOULD A HOLY GOD ALLOW HIMSELF TO SUFFER AND THEN BE ASKED...IF HE IS GOD... WHY IS THERE SO MUCH SUFFERING IN THE WORLD??....HE LOVED US SO MUCH THAT HE WAS WILLING TO CLEAN UP WHAT WE MESSED UP.

MATTHEW 27:37-43
37] AND SET UP OVER HIS HEAD HIS ACCUSATION WRITTEN, THIS IS JESUS THE KING OF THE JEWS....
38] THEN THERE WERE TWO THIEVES CRUCIFIED WITH HIM, ONE ON THE RIGHT HAND, AND THE OTHER ON THE LEFT....
39] AND THEY THAT PASSED BY REVILED HIM, WAGGING THEIR HEADS...
40] AND SAYING THOU THAT BUILDEST THE TEMPLE AND DESTROYETH IT IN THREE DAYS SAVE THYSELF...
41] LIKEWISE ALSO THE CHIEF PRIESTS MOCKING HIM, WITH THE SCRIBES AND ELDERS SAID....
42] HE SAVED OTHERS; HIMSELF HE CANNOT SAVE...IF HE BE THE KING OF ISRAEL, LET HIM NOW COME DOWN FROM THE CROSS, AND WE WILL BELIEVE HIM....
43] HE TRUSTED IN GOD; LET HIM DELIVER HIM NOW, IF HE WILL HAVE HIM: FOR HE SAID, I AM THE SON OF GOD...

JOHN 10:17-18
17] THEREFORE DOTH MY FATHER LOVE ME, BECAUSE I LAY DOWN MY LIFE, THAT I MAY TAKE IT AGAIN...
18] NO MAN TAKETH IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF, I HAVE POWER TO LAY IT DOWN, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT AGAIN...THIS COMMANDMENT HAVE I RECEIVED OF MY FATHER.

I HOPE THAT THIS IS SOME OF WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR...IF GOD CAN LAY DOWN HIS LIFE AND TAKE IT UP AGAIN...HE IS DEFINITELY IN CONTROL! WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE DEVIL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH OF THE EVILTHAT IS IN THE WORLD BUT WE WERE THE ONES WHO OPENED THE DOOR.

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Permalink Reply by Alain M. Paguntalan on April 1, 2010 at 5:29am

Pastor Ron,
I thank God cause you are seeking for understanding about this wonderful topic that you gave to us to discuss. According to my studies we have to understand first that God is the King of all Kings and the Lord of all Lord's. When you are a King your word is a law. And being a King you are careful to say something cause it will becomes a law. But remember that even the King submit to His own law. That's why God Himself submit to it. According to the bible that said, Heaven and earth will past away but my word will stay forever.

The answer to your question found on the very heart of the old testament recorded in Genesis 1:26 that say, " Let us make man with our own image, in our own likeness and LET THEM rule over the fishes of the sea and the birds of the air and of every living creature that moves on the ground".
In this chapter when God says LET THEM He making here a law which He separate Himself to the human responsible. Take note: The word of the King is a law.

When He establish His law on earth when He said, LET THEM.. He do not say Let Us.. That means everything on earth He trusted on His son adam. That's why earth is just exclussive for humans only.
The word human for the hebrew word humous which mean spirit in the dirt body. HU-Dirt MOUS-man. When Eve is tempted in the garden God knows it and see it but He did not stop lucifer because if He is He will broken His law that He establish to Adam, LET THEM. So whatever happened on earth, and your life is your responsible. That's why God said to the serpent I will come to you through my Son, that upon her offspring He will crash your head. See, God protecting His dignity and don't break His law. That's why even Himself take into a human form a humous to crash satan.

I know its knew to you my brothers and sister of the Lord and I'm not giving you a false doctrine in here. In order to be clear to us we must study God first who He is. That's why in the Book of Matthew 1. You will notice that in the genealogy of Jesus that He is from the line of David the king. A Royal Blood family. We miss the family tree of Jesus from God to David and to Jesus that He is the King so His Father in heaven. You notice that the preaching of Jesus Christ in the gospel is all about His kingdom.

God making a law between Him and man. And the Kings word is final. And even He submit to it.
Hope pastor Ron I help you with this! Thank you and God Bless you and your ministry!!!

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